“For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not "perish, but have eternal life. For God did not send the Son into the world to judge the world, but that the world might be saved through Him.” (John 3:16-17)
“In the relation to God, unconditional exclusiveness and unconditional inclusiveness are one. For those who enter into the absolute relationship, nothing particular retains any importance—neither things nor beings, neither earth nor heaven—but everything is included in the relationship. For entering into the pure relationship does not involve ignoring everything but seeing everything in the You, not renouncing the world but placing it upon its proper ground. Looking away from the world is no help toward God; staring at the world is no help either; but whoever beholds the world in him stands in his presences…” (from I and Thou
“When I attempted a few minutes ago, to describe our spiritual longings, I was omitting one of their most curious characteristics. We usually notice it just as the moment of vision dies away, as the music ends, or as the landscape loses the celestial light… For a few minutes we have had the illusion of belonging to that world. Now we wake to find that it is no such thing. We have been mere spectators. Beauty has smiled, but not to welcome us; her face turned in our direction, but not to see us. We have not been accepted, welcomed, or taken into the dance. We may go when we please, we may stay if we can, no one cares. Now, a scientist may reply that since most of the things we call beautiful are inanimate it is not very surprising that they take no notice of us. That, of course, is true. It is not the physical objects that I am speaking of, but that indescribable Something of which they become for a moment the messengers. And part of the bitterness which mixes with the sweetness of that message is due to the fact that it so seldom seems to be a message intended for us, but rather something we have overheard. By bitterness I mean pain, not resentment. We should hardly dare to ask that any notice be taken of ourselves. But we pine. The sense that in the universe we are treated as strangers, the longing to be acknowledged, to meet with some response, the bridge some chasm that yawns between us and reality, is part of our inconsolable secret.” (from The Weight of Glory
Days of Heaven
The Thin Red Line
The New World
“Truth is the truth of Being. Beauty does not occur alongside and apart from this truth. When truth sets itself into the work, it appears. Appearance—as this being of truth in the work and as work—is beauty. Thus the beautiful belongs to the advent of truth, truth’s taking of its place. It does not exist merely relative to pleasure and purely as its object.” (from “The Origin of the Work of Art.”)
“Now we see but a poor reflection as in a mirror; then we shall see face to face. Now I know in part; then I shall know fully, even as I am fully known.” (I Corinthians 13:12)
“All media work us over completely. They are so pervasive in their personal, political, economic, aesthetic, psychological, moral, ethical, and social consequences that they leave no part of us untouched, unaffected, unaltered.” (from The Medium is the Massage
And in my best behavior
I am really just like him
Look beneath the floorboards
For the secrets I have hid
(from “John Wayne Gacy, Jr.”)
F. Scott Fitzgerald
“And as I sat there brooding on the old unknown world, I thought of Gatsby’s wonder when he first picked out the green light at the end of Daisy’s long dock. He had come a long way to this blue lawn, and his dream must have seemed so close that he could hardly fail to grasp it, He did not know that it was already behind him, somewhere back in that vast obscurity beyond the city, where the dark fields of the republic rolled on under the night.” (from The Great Gatsby
“All representations, even the most abstract, infer a rendezvous with intelligibility or, at the least, with a strangeness attenuated, qualified by observance and willed form. Apprehension (the meeting with the other) signifies both fear and perception. The continuum between both, the modulation from one to the other, lie at the source of poetry and the arts.” (from Real Presences
“What is the nature of a being that is able to produce art? Man is finite. He is, as one could say, mixed of being and nonbeing. Once he was not. Now he is and some time he will not be. He is not by himself, but thrown into existence and he will be thrown out of existence and cease to be for himself. He is delivered to the flux of time which runs from the past to the future through the ever-moving point which is called the present. He is aware of the infinite. He is aware that he belongs to it. But he is also aware that he is excluded from it… Out of the anxiety, and the double awareness that we are finite and that we belong to infinity from which we are excluded, the urge arises to express the essential unity of that which we are in symbols which are religious and artistic.” (from On Art and Architecture
“Poets have, indeed, often communicated in their own mode of expression truths identical with the theologians’ truths; but just because of the difference in the modes of expression, we often fail to see the identity of the statements.” (from The Mind of the Maker
Over the Rhine
What a beautiful piece of heartache this has all turned out to be.
Lord knows we've learned the hard way all about healthy apathy.
And I use these words pretty loosely.
There's so much more to life than words.
(from “Latter Days”)
“He will grant thee a hiding place within Him, and once hidden in Him he will hide thy sins. For He is the friend of sinners... He does not merely stand still, open His arms and say, 'Come hither'; no, he stands there and waits, as the father of the lost son waited, rather He does not stand and wait, he goes forth to seek, as the shepherd sought the lost sheep, as the woman sought the lost coin. He goes--yet no, he has gone, but infinitely farther than any shepherd or any woman, He went, in sooth, the infinitely long way from being God to becoming man, and that way He went in search of sinners.” (from Training in Christianity
“In what belongs to the deeper meanings of nature and her mediation between us and God, the appearances of nature are the truths of nature, far deeper than any scientific discoveries in and concerning them. The show of things is that for which God cares most, for their show is the face of far deeper things than they; we see in them, in a distant way, as in a glass darkly, the face of the unseen. It is through their show, not through their analysis, that we enter into their deepest truths. What they say to the childlike soul is the truest thing to be gathered of them.” (from The Voice of Job
The Bustle in a House
The Morning after Death
Is solemnest of industries
Enacted opon Earth –
The Sweeping up the Heart
And putting Love away
We shall not want to use again
“In uncertainty I am certain that underneath their topmost layers of frailty men want to be good and want to be loved. Indeed, most of their vices are attempted short cuts to love. When a man comes to die, no matter what his talents and influence and genius, if he dies unloved his life must be a failure to him and his dying a cold horror.” (from East of Eden
He woke up, the room was bare
He didn't see her anywhere.
He told himself he didn't care,
pushed the window open wide,
Felt an emptiness inside
to which he just could not relate
Brought on by a simple twist of fate.
(from “Simple Twist of Fate”)
“What is the malaise? You ask. The malaise is the pain of loss. The world is lost to you, the world and the people in it, and there remains only you and the world and you no more able to be in the world than Banquo’s ghost.” (from The Moviegoer
Lost in Translation
“Church is to be participated in and not consumed. The point is not what one gets out of it, but the worship of God; the service takes place both because of and despite the needs, strengths, and frailties of the people present. How else could it be?” (from Dakota
“Whenever I think of Edward, I think of playing catch in a hot street and that wonderful weariness of the arms. I think of leaping after a high throw and that wonderful collaboration of the whole body with itself and that wonderful certainty and amazement when you know the glove is just where it should be. Oh, I will miss the world!” (from Gilead
“Preaching the gospel means announcing Jesus as Lord of the world; and, unless we are prepared to contradict ourselves with every breath we take, we cannot make that announcement without seeking to bring that lordship to bear over every aspect of the world.” (from What Saint Paul Really Said
It's weird to think of all the things
That have not been keeping up with the times
It's ten o' clock the sun is down
Just begun to set the western hills on fire
I hear that you don't change
How do you expect to keep up with the trends
You won't survive the information age
Unless you plan to change the truth to accommodate the brilliance of man
The brilliance of man
(from “Letter From a Concerned Follower”)
“Gazing at some detail like a bird or a cloud, we can all ignore its awful blue background; we can neglect the sky; and precisely because it bears down upon us with an annihilating force it is felt as nothing. A thing of this kind can only be an impression and a rather subtle impression; but to me it is a very strong impression made by pagan literature and religion. I repeat that in our special sacramental sense there is, of course, the absence of the presence of God. But there is in a very real sense the presence of the absence of God. We feel it in the unfathomable sadness of pagan poetry; for I doubt if there was ever in all the marvelous manhood of antiquity a man who was happy as St. Francis was happy.” (from The Everlasting Man
Gus Van Sant
"I have seen the task which God has given the sons of men with which to occupy themselves. He has made everything appropriate in its time. He has also set eternity in their heart, yet so that man will not find out the work which God has done from the beginning even to the end. I know that there is nothing better for them than to rejoice and to do good in one's lifetime; moreover, that every man who eats and drinks sees good in all his labor--it is the gift of God. I know that everything God does will remain forever; there is nothing to add to it and there is nothing to take from it, for God has so worked that men should fear Him. That which is has been already and that which will be has already been, for God seeks what has passed by." (Ecclesiastes 3:10-15).
“What is that feeling when you’re driving away from people and they recede on the plain till you see their specks dispersing?—it’s the too-huge world vaulting us, and it’s good bye. But we lean forward to the next crazy venture beneath the skies.” (from On the Road
"Thou hast made us for Thyself, O Lord, and our hearts are restless until they find their rest in Thee..."
“Unless I am convinced by proofs from Scriptures or by plain and clear reasons and arguments, I can and will not retract, for it is neither safe nor wise to do anything against conscience. Here I stand. I can do no other. God help me. Amen."
Jean-Pierre and Luc Dardenne
This is very interesting especially with the leaps and bounds forward afforded by scientific processes that people have, and one of the mains problems that many people have today is to create a sense of reductionism with regards of simply diminishing the value of a person down to some kind of neurochemical process. But I think that it is with Kant if I remember correctly who had basically shifted the philosophical questions of what is it that I know, to the more compelling question of how is it that I know–or rather, how am I cognizant of all of this in the first place? And I think that Kant is able to bring us closer to the question of the soul with this…that rather than sealing these questions with a scientific manhole cover, one should not trap oneself in a deadlock of pure science….
I recommend reading Tom Wolfe’s essay Sorry, But Your Soul Just Died for a pretty overall look at how cognitive neuroscience eliminates the need for anything but the physical body to create ego et al.
Not to be a doctrine cop, but I am pretty concerned that Murphy’s view calls into question the existence of spiritual beings INCLUDING the Holy Spirit. This should receive more than a passing “oh, here’s one teensy repercussion of her views” remark, if you ask me. (I know, of course, that you are probably just as concerned about that as I am).
As you’ve stated, both of these views are pretty extreme. I almost said that the “correct” view is probably in the middle, but the more I think of it, the correct views are rarely in the middle, left or right. They are (if we must speak dimensionally!) ABOVE. They transcend.
Or so says this ignorant blogger.
Yeah I’m not sure why materialism eliminates the Holy Spirit (or even angels and demons, although there are plenty of other reasons to dismiss them). The fact that there’s no Casper-like metaphysical ghost wearing your body like a hermit crab’s shell doesn’t mean there’s no metaphysic– and in fact it seems to me that a progression into such thought necessitates a physical, bodily God who lives in a location, presumably somewhere in outer space.
>If one adopts Swinburne’s hardcore dualism, >our commitment to the body (which >Swinburne is reluctant to say will even exist in >heaven) is undercut and our motivation to >redeem the physical all but made moot.
I doubt this, although I think Swinburne gets himself in trouble with his ‘events’. If you read St. Thomas or Aristotle – Aristotle’s _On the Soul_ or St. Thomas’ Question on the Soul – or any of the other classical dualists – you’ll see that they’re actually preaching that the soul and body are two separate substances which combine in a sort of ‘irreducible complexity’ kinda way to create a new substance of which they are what philosophers like to call the formal and material causes.
These philosophers argue that the soul can’t perform its functions without the body, and that a ‘person’ doesn’t exist without both… in fact, Aristotle himself rather famously concludes that the soul is separable and immortal, but then ends in a pickle as he cannot figure out how having an eternally separate soul would benefit anyone, as it could not execute any of its essential functions. This, of course, is treated as the best ‘natural’ argument for the resurrection of the body, and has formed Christian dualism since the whole thing started. It’s also frequently trotted out as one of those eerie supports for Christian doctrines found in the ancient world.
Anyway. Excuse the philosophy nerd time, but I’m pretty sure it’s Christian philosophers of Platonic descent that are the ones who traditionally have to worry about Manicheanism, and not your run-of-the-mill Christian dualists, who descend rather from Aristotelian thinking.
Your right about one thing here Do people have souls? NO we do not… but there’s something I want to ask you in the bible there’s a passage thats states when Christ returns he will raise the dead…. why would Jesus raise the dead if we have souls? wouldn’t that just be a empty shell? kinda like the old saying we are a peanut & the shell is our body….. well here’s your answer we will get a soul when Christ resurrect’s us, Jesus was a man like you or I until he was resurrected, your trying to find something that isn’t there until the time comes, so that being said do I think we die and are judged right away…NO if you are born again and have asked Jesus Christ to forgive you for your sins and ask him to be your personal savior then you get to be with him in heaven period, so now your thinking are all those Christians that have gone before us laying in a grave???? Yes they are, I believe they have no conscience and lay waiting for the return of Jesus, I do not believe we burn in hell when we die if we are not born again, a lovely God as we have would not torment you like that, HELL was taught to scare you into believing or else, Jesus in the bible was teaching somewhere and was giving a example of a place called Hordes(I believe) this was a place where garbage and the dead who say died of a sickness was sent it was a giant fire pit simply put, he went on to explain that without the father it would be like being thrown in Hordes burning up, he did not mean YOU would burn up he used that example to explain its like being nothing without God cause in the pit whatever was there until it burned up into nothing, so Jesus was saying that without him/The Father you will be nothing…. see its not a threat it means if you do not want God fine when you die you will be nothing, in turn separated from God, this means Yes all the non Christians laying in there grave will be just that and nothing more when Christ comes back for all of us……note once again “I do so believe that a relationship as Jesus being your personal savior is a must just like it says in the bible I would never want someone to think there’s a quick easy way out, well there is but you wouln’t like it, again no not burning in Hell but to me whats worst then that is being “Separated from God in total” now to me thats Hell…..